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            New Delhi: It was rare 
            in the two-decade-old troubled history of Kashmir - the two grand 
            old men of the state's political divide sharing the dais for the 
            first time. Predictably, former chief minister Farooq Abdullah and 
            unabashedly pro-Pakistani separatist Syed Geelani used the occasion 
            to blast one another. The two leaders spoke Saturday on "Kashmir, 
            What next?" at the 10th India Today conclave. But they provided no 
            answers to problems of Jammu and Kashmir.  
             
            While Abdullah, a union minister who heads the state's ruling 
            National Conference, digressed from Kashmir to the situation in 
            Pakistan, Geelani stuck to his UN-supervised-plebiscite demand. 
             
            Former union minister Arif Mohammed Khan, the third speaker, 
            focussed more on the situation of migrants in India and Pakistan 
            after the 1947 partition. 
             
            The discussion began on a note of dissent by the 82-year-old Geelani. 
            He objected to Abdullah's inclusion into the debate. Abdullah's name 
            was not in the speakers list distributed earlier. 
             
            "You can treat a disease but you cannot cure a habit. Farooq Sahib 
            is compelled by the the habit of gate crashing and that is why he 
            stands between us today," Geelani said. 
             
            The 74-year-old Abdullah, the first speaker, had earlier stoked 
            Geelani's anger with his speech.  
             
            "I am happy. This is the greatness of the Indian republic that we 
            have the guts to hear that we may not like to," he said, referring 
            to an expected anti-India speech by Geelani. 
             
            Abdullah said Kashmir would never secede from India.  
             
            "We will accept everything but not the division. We are not ready 
            for that. There is no question of plebiscite," he said, adding 
            Pakistan was itself a divided state where moderates like Salman 
            Tahseer and Christian minister Shahbaz Bhatti were being killed and 
            "murderers welcomed". 
             
            Khan hit out at Geelani, perhaps where it hurts him the most. He 
            reminded the octogenarian of successfully contesting assembly 
            elections thrice before heralding the separatist movement in 1989. 
             
            "He has taken oaths as a member of the assembly. Look at the freedom 
            in this country! He has the freedom to trash the constitution he 
            once took oath under. Geelani Sahib, first you take oath of 
            allegiance to the nation, you become disloyal, and now you are 
            trying to break the nation. What a freedom you have!" 
             
            At this Geelani looked stunned. When he rose to speak, his first 
            defence was why he fought elections under the Indian constitution. 
             
            "I fought elections because I was looking for a democratic way to 
            solve the dispute. And for that matter, the Indian National Congress 
            also fought elections in 1935 under the British rule and nobody 
            questioned them why they were demanding freedom from Britishers." 
             
            Geelani said the Kashmir "dispute" was all about "broken promises by 
            India". He alleged that miseries were piled on Kashmiris by lakhs of 
            armed forces personnel in the state. 
             
            "One lakh people killed, 7,000 women raped, 10,000 forced 
            disappearances, 100,000 tortured, 50,000 orphans, 30,000 widows, 
            2,700 unidentified graves, 1,000 half widows," Geelani summed up the 
            Kashmir story in statistics he counts on his fingers quite 
            routinely. The figures are dubbed "exaggerated" by officials. Even 
            activists dispute these numbers. 
             
            Geelani was booed at by the audience when he denied that the Muslim 
            majority was to blame for the exodus of some 300,000 Kashmiri Hindus 
            from the state.  
             
            "They were moved out of the Kashmir Valley as part of the 
            state-hatched conspiracy. We were not responsible for that." 
             
            At this the Darbar Hall of the Taj Palace hotel reverberated with 
            loud "oooooh" bringing to close the session. 
            
              
            
              
            
              
            
              
              
                
              
                
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